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Olivier Clement: "contrasting signals" in dialogue
between Catholic and Orthodox Churches
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Famous Orthodox theologian speaks of Churches still closed to
dialogue and a fringe of the
Russian Orthodox Church which shows signs of opening
For more information - Interview with Archbishop Tadeusz Kondruziewicz
of the Catholic Archdiocese of the Mother of God in Moscow
In your opinion what is the present situation with regard
to Catholic-Orthodox dialogue?
Nothing much is happening. There is closure on the part of Moscow.
But there are good signs of opening in the Balkans and in the
Middle East, Antioch, Syria and Lebanon. But on the Russian side
there is complete closure. Pope John Paul II's journeys to Rumania
and Greece have opened several doors.
Do you think there could be concrete progress soon, not only
with regard to Russia? And what would be the dangers if dialogue
fails?
This is something you should ask the leaders on both sides.
For the moment I see little chance of progress with Russia. But
there are concrete results such as a change of attitude in Greece
for example. Then there is a possibility that the Catholic-Orthodox
Mixed Theological Commission may resume its work. But for the
moment this is all I see.
At present failure regards mainly Russia. But there are other
Churches which refuse dialogue for example the Serb Orthodox Church,
the Church of Georgia, which withdrew from the World Council of
Churches some time ago. The Georgian Church pressured by its monks,
not its leaders, refuses to dialogue with anyone. The monks are
fanatical, they reject any signs of opening: they affirm that
only they hold the treasure of the faith and that nothing must
be touched or changed.
Would you say that Russia is no longer the monolithic block
of the past and that Orthodox Christians, despite a strong, closed
fringe, are not united?
Yes this is correct. There is certainly a fringe which tends
to open but it is a minority. I think for example of Fr Alexandre
Men who was assassinated in 1990: he left behind him an association
and several friends who are very open.
Can they make their voices heard?
No, they have little chance of getting Orthodox leaders to listen
to them. These people work mainly at the level of Church roots.
Are there other groups similar to that of Men?
Yes there are personalities who have followers, for example Fr
Godchetkov, a remarkable man, but who met with serious difficulties.
He set up an association which does some good work, but its field
of action remains limited.
You are a point of reference for the Orthodox world, how would
you see complete reconciliation between Catholics and Orthodox?
I think we must make gestures which rediscover and reassure
Russian Orthodox sensitivity, especially because I think in other
countries relations continue normally. Gestures towards the Russian
Orthodox Church are the fundamental point. (Fides Service 5/7/2002)
Olivier Clement: An Orthodox Christian of the West
Vatican City (Fides Service) - Olivier Clement is one of the most
esteemed and productive witnesses of Orthodox Christianity in
the West. Born in Paris in 1921, an atheist until the age of 21,
he became a Christian after years of spiritual searching. He taught
history in Paris and is a professor at the St Sergius Institute
of Orthodox Theology. He is a member of the Paris Ecumenical Institute
and one of the founders of the Orthodox Fraternity in Western
Europe. He is the author of about thirty books on the life and
thought of the Orthodox Church and on Western Christianity. (Fides
Service 5/7/2002)
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